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In addition to their psychotherapeutic training Johanna and Oliver trained and interned over a period of 3 years with The Centre for Systemic Constellations (Formerly the Hellinger Institute (UK) ) under the tutelage of various first and second generation Constellators including Judith Hemming, Jutta ten Herkel, Gaye Donaldson and Chris Williams.

Oliver and Johanna co-founded Family Constellations Surrey and together run Constellation experiences and workshops in Surrey and the surrounding area.

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