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District 308 High School Student Services Event & Q&A

PACE - Parents And Community for Excellence Organization

Monday, January 7, 2013 at 1:00 PM - Wednesday, January 30, 2013 at 7:00 PM (CST)

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High School Student Services Event and Q&A for 6-8 Grade and High School Families

When: January 30, Wednesday

Time: 7pm - 9pm

Location: Oswego East High School Community Room (Enter through door #2 located just to the right of the main entrance)

- Is it true that students who have already registered for 7 classes have been called down or will be called down to their counselors and asked to pick a study hall?

- Is it true that 7th-Period Waiver needs to be approved before a student can take the 7th course?

- Can you show us a copy of a 7th-Period waiver so that we know how to fill one out? Can you show us a copy of a Lunch Waiver?

- Where can we find the 7th-Period Waiver and Lunch Waivers online on the HS website?

- I hear a lot about highly selective schools requiring a foreign language. Can the district provide a summary of what 308 students have needed to show to get accepted? For example tier of schools that require 2 years vs. 4 years of language. 

OHS and OEHS Student Services Directors will address questions and help parents and students with many important topics ranging from how can students get more information on the HS courses; HS course drop policy; help for students who want to take an Honors/AP course for the first time; answer what are PE waivers, Lunch waivers, Early bird PE; is there Study Hall in HS; when is the earliest that students can take the various AP courses; how can students fulfill the Consumer Ed and Driver's Ed graduation requirements; And much more! 

Please see below for the agenda for the evening and questions received thus far.


Please send in questions beforehand to pace308org@sbcglobal.net to ensure they will be addressed at the event.  If possible please browse the HS Course Catalog at, http://www.oswego308.org/teaching_learning/secondary/default.aspx, for information purposes or you may find additional questions. Please register here. Walk-ins are welcome!


The event is sponsored by PACE, OEHS Wolf Parents Organization, Plank Junior High PTA, and Thompson Junior High PTA. 


Agenda for the evening - 

High School Student Services Directors will

1) give us District updates on where we are with

- Dual Credit?

- Online Classes?

- evening courses being offered?

- students being able to take 6, 7, or 8 classes?

- changes to the School Calendar?

2) address the below questions received, and

3) have a Q&A session immediately following.



Specifically for Regular to Honors students - For students in 8th grade - 11th grade who have been in the regular course, but are moving to honors/AP course

1) what is the course drop policy?

2) based on my experience with my older child, there is information that students have not learned in theregular track compared to honors. Can the district provide information/additional materials for students to go over during summer or winter break so students can be successful once they are in honors/AP courses?

3) Can the district provide a more safety net for students so they are not stuck in a course that is not appropriate for them and consequently, the grades suffer sometimes dramatically? So that students are not being punished or severely affected for trying to improve themselves and taking on additional challenge?

4) what is the rigor level from regular to honors? What types of assignments, tests, projects will students receive? About how much homework can students expect?


For All students

Course Selections -

- Can 8th grade students turn in their course selections after this Jan 30 event?  The deadline for my child is Jan 29, but I really would like to know some of the answers to the questions before I turn it in since I can not make changes to it.

- Do you recommend that incoming Freshmen who are taking all 4 core honors courses take study hall as well?  In general is the workload manageable for incoming Freshmen if they don't take study hall?

1) I have an 8th grader. Besides the course catalog, how can I get more information on the high school courses? Can this information be communicated to 8th grade families?

2) So that we don't go through all the HS teachers' websites and examine their website carefully to find out information about courses, is it possible that we have a list that shows which teacher teaches which class? Or which class is taught by which teacher? That way, we can find the right person and contact them directly with any questions.

3) Receipt of HS Schedule - Can students receive the course schedule for next school year several weeks before school is out so that students can make meaningful changes before summer school and start of next school year. Many students(and families) are surprised when they receive the schedule 1 week before school starts and are disappointed when they did not get the courses they needed, course they want are closed, scrambling to find anything that is open, or find out they need to commute to the other high school.

4) When is the last day to make changes to the student's schedule for next year?

5) How many classes can a student take in a semester; or how little can they take?

6) Could you give us a sample 9th or 10th or 11th grader's class schedule?

7) How do students qualify for lunch waivers? Which students qualify for this waiver?

8) How do students qualify for PE waivers? Which students qualify for this waiver?

9) How does early bird PE work? What time does early bird start and end?

10) Can students register for Study Hall for next school year?

11) My son will be a junior next year and since a half credit of Consumer Education is a graduation requirement we included it in next year’s course selection. To our dismay, his counselor said the school does not allow students to take Consumer Education until their senior year so I can’t add it for next year. I was very surprised with the response, especially since the course catalog does not indicate a pre-requisite for this course. Also, the AP Micro Economics course is listed as meeting the consumer education requirement and is allowed to be taken by 11th and 12th graders. How is it that an AP course is allowed and not a regular Consumer Education course?

12) What area the various ways that students can fulfill Consumer Ed and Driver's Ed courses? Can they take a correspondence course for Consumer Ed?

13) For each grade level and at each high school, how does the meeting with the counselor and student work during course selections? Do students meet one-on-one or in a group? Does the course selection form need to be signed by the parent?

14) there is inconsistency in information that students and parents receive from some counselors regarding course prerequisites and what grade level students are allowed to take them, as compared to what the Course Catalog indicates. Could the Course Catalog guidelines be enforced by all counselors across the district? If there are exceptions to the guidelines, could they be spelled out in the Course Catalog?

15) Do students have to sign up for a World Language course? How many years of World Language do highly selective colleges recommend? How many do selective colleges recommend?

16) What is the process for students to sign up for classes through Illinois Virtual High School, Waubonsee Community College, North Central College's Community Scholars and Lederman Scholars, Northwestern University's Center for Talent Development, College of Dupage Talent Search, University of Chicago's Summer Courses for High School Students, etc. How are students' GPA evaluated? What forms need to be completed and what is the timeline? What helpful tips or advice do you have?

17) What do you advise for students who are native speakers of Spanish, Mandarin, etc on which World Languages courses to take and how many to take if they want to go to 1) highly selective colleges and 2) selective colleges

18) I know that the Mandarin 3 and Mandarin AP are listed in the Catalog; but will the district offer them -- in this coming Fall?

19) In other school districts in IL and in other states, students can choose the teachers in HS.  Can students in our district choose their teachers?


AP Course Selection -

1) As of today, are there AP courses for next year that may not run? Are there AP courses that will run only at OHS or OEHS?

2) How soon can students take the various AP courses? There seems to be inconsistent information between the high schools and between counselors.

3) Several AP courses did not run this year due to low or no enrollment. Could you give us more information on these courses? Do we have teachers and materials to run them? What is being done to see if there are students who are interested in taking them next year?

(AP Computer Science, AP Physics B, AP Spanish Literature, AP Art History, AP Music Theory, AP German Language)


4) This school year, some HS students needed to travel to the other HS for classes. With the Flex 8 schedule, the travel times takes a great deal away from instruction time. What is being done to prevent that for next school year?


Summer School -

- Which HS summer school courses ran last summer?

1) When will the Summer School courses for 2013 be shared with district families?

2) Can our students take Summer School courses offered in District 203, 204, and 202 in exchange for credit in our district? If yes, what process do they need to go through and what is the timeline?

General Student Services Questions -

1) The NCAA registration process needs to be better coordinated between the Athletic and Student Services departments.

a) Could you please explain the NCAA registration process? If my child wants to play a sport in college, whom do I seek for advice? Counselor? Gym teacher? Coach?

b) When the school switched from block to flex schedule, the math course titles were modified and this course information needs to be updated with NCAA. Currently the Core Course GPA website is still listing the Analysis courses from the block schedule, which are no longer offered, and is missing the Pre Calculus from the current flex 8. I have been told that NCAA made a policy that if there was more than one high school in the district, a district level person needed to oversee everything. This needs to be updated so that college bound athletes can get the core credit for Pre Calculus. Thank you for addressing this.

2) What kinds of software, programs, and follow-up are provided to HS students for career exploration through Student Services?

3) Letter of Recommendation for colleges - What can students do if teachers are busy and can not write a letter even with over 4-week notice?

4) Our Student Services Website - Can articles be posted on the Student Services website regarding importance of college visits, deadlines for state university Honors programs, reciprocity program that IL has with its neighboring schools, specific timeline for when parents/students should apply for FAFSA pin, apply for FAFSA, start visiting/looking at colleges, etc.

5) Can the materials from last summer's informative College Prep class be made available for purchase by parents / students who were not able to attend the session?

6) Can I get more information on qualifications for getting into the Medical Topics program? How many students qualify?

7) Can I get more information on internships, and how I can go about obtaining one? What types of internships are available?

8) Can I get more information on job shadowing, and how I can go about obtaining one or more?

9) What is the difference between the AP Tests and SAT Subject Tests?

10) Students Unaware of SAT Subject Test Requirements - Couple of our brightest students wanted to apply to Harvard and Stanford but were not aware of SAT Subject Tests requirements. Stanford says "recommended", but in this tough environment, it's really a requirement. By the time they realized this, they had very little time to study and did not do well enough on testing. If they had known about this Junior year or earlier, they could have prepared. Also, AP teachers can let students know they should take the Subject Tests as soon as students finish the class - best time to take Subject Tests.

11) SAT Subject Tests Information needed! - Radnor HS in PA has an excellent webpage on colleges that require, recommend, or utilize SAT Subject Tests. The site is http://www.rtsd.org/Page/1574. Subject Tests are becoming more important to extremely crucial in the college process. If similar information can be posted on our Student Services website, it would be a tremendous help. There are also other information on their guidance page that look helpful. Many parents in our district who would love to have some of their info. Their Subject Test Guide is good also showing which Test corresponds to finishing which course, http://www.rtsd.org/Page/11401.

12) Other District Websites Info - Radnor HS also has lots of helpful webpages on Early Decision, Early Admission, SAT Subject Test FAQ page, and an interesting School Profile that gives a breakdown of which colleges students are attending based on students' GPA - http://www.rtsd.org/Page/1594. I would like information on all this and more.

- I would like to know which colleges our students are attending.

- I would like to know how our students are doing on AP exams.

13) For 8th grade students who are accelerated in math, how are their HS math courses figured into the students' HS GPA? Do they receive any HS credit once they are freshmen on their HS transcript?


Request for Meeting Changes or Additional Workshops -

1) College Check Needed - Can all Juniors turn in a list of at least 6 colleges or so they are looking to apply to and meet with the counselor regarding this. On the form, students can put down the avg stats for that school, when/if they are planning to visit, other info about that school. Counselors can perhaps put on the form for students to put down couple reach schools, safe schools, etc.

2) Senior Check - Can the "Senior Check" be done during Junior Year? We believe during Senior Check counselors sit down at the beginning of Senior year with Seniors to see if they will fulfill graduation requirements and to talk about students' post high-school plans. Many feel Senior year is already too late.

3) Can a workshop on creating a student resume listing academic, athletic and volunteer achievements and activities be made available? I must have asked dozens of parents and college counselors about this before we came up with a format for our son.

4) Can an information session for all Seniors and their parents be scheduled during the month of September for advising them of how to prepare for applying to colleges, and activities and requirements coming up for their last year of high school.

Counselors Summer Schedule -

1) What are counselors' summer hours? When do they leave for the summer and when do they return?

2) If they are out of the building, how can we communicate with them? How soon do they reply to emails?

3) If they are out of the building, what kinds of questions are they able to answer?

Have questions about District 308 High School Student Services Event & Q&A? Contact PACE - Parents And Community for Excellence Organization

When & Where

Oswego East High School
1525 Harvey Road
Oswego, 60543

Monday, January 7, 2013 at 1:00 PM - Wednesday, January 30, 2013 at 7:00 PM (CST)

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